The human relationship betweenBatmanand theJokerinDC Comicsis one of soda water culture ’s most high profile conflicts . explore in piles of comics , pic , and video game , scores of creators have offered their own explanations for the Dark Knight ’s   decades - quondam feud with the Clown Prince of Crime . As it turns out , one iconic furrow fromBanein the Christopher Nolan picture , The Dark Knight Rises , putsBatman and the Joker ’s relationshipinto perfect clarity .

In   the first scene ofThe Dark Knight Rises , the villain Bane utters the line , " No one cared who I was until I put on the masquerade party . " While the line has gained a new life of its own as a meme , it speaks to the Batman ’s condition in his relationship with Joker , research in the   " Death of the Family"storyline   centered aroundBatman#13 - 17 from DC’sNew 52era . Written by Scott Snyder with graphics from Greg Capullo , Jock , and Jonathan Glapion , " Death of the Family "   describe the Joker ’s attempts to habituate Batman ’s sexual love for his category against him , cite   his adopted children as a pointedness of weakness . By wreaking havoc on the Bat - Family , Joker sought to prompt Batman of a dim-witted time when it was just   the two of them , duking it out in Gotham City . The floor hinge upon a startling disclosure that Joker may have discovered Batman ’s secret individuality , and by extension the relaxation of the Bat - Family ’s , which Bruce repeatedly denied the possibility of .

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At the arc ’s conclusion inBatman#17 , Bruce state Alfred that ahead of time on in his life history as Batman , he made a   visit to Arkham Asylum under the pretence of philanthropy , where he directly confirmedhis identity operator as Batmanto Joker . To his surprise , Joker stared impassively at both Bruce and the calling card he held against the glass of the cellular phone . Bruce say , " It was then that I know – knew that he did n’t care who I was beneath the mask , and he never would . Knew that he was unequal to of even broaching the national of Bruce Wayne . It would ruin his fun . "

Joker ’s response to Bruce Wayne ’s admission fee that he was Batman prove that likeBane inThe Dark Knight Rises , no one worry about Bruce Wayne until he put on the mask . For someone like Joker , whose humanity is so far removed , seeing Batman as a adult male in a suit is n’t a peak of interest . Joker is more induct in seeing his opposition as another costume role , whose substantial personal identity is just as shadowy as his own . This speak to anotherBatman root evident in Snyder’sNew 52run , where Batman functioned as an " idea " in Gotham City , as opposed to a physical individual .

In this horse sense , Joker ’s action reveal the extent to which his own identity as a villain is construct around his opposition to ideological figures like Batman . Without Batman , or any other uttermost hydrofoil , the Joker is meaningless , as his behavior in his cellular telephone at Arkham evidences . This further advances what has made Joker such an cryptical scoundrel for decades , whose man , or deficiency thereof , has been a massive point of contention . Snyder ’s writing shows that the Joker truly is n’t a humankind , but a reactionary military force incapable of being make a motion by   human fundamental interaction . What his literal identity is is paltry . This very idea speaks to the ethos behindBane ’s mask line fromThe Dark Knight Rises , and the philosophic core ofBatmanandJoker ’s kinship .

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